Cut to the chaste/chase

[Brian Pipa]

Hi all,

I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"

I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.

One of the definitions of chaste is:
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).

Anyone have a definitive answer?

Thanks,
brian

[M.C.]

Post by Brian Pipa
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?

Cut to the chase.

Hollywood jargon for "get rid of the talky scenes and get to the
action."

[Robert Lieblich]

Post by M.C.

Post by Brian Pipa
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?

Cut to the chase.
Hollywood jargon for "get rid of the talky scenes and get to the
action."

He's right, you know. Check these out:

http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxcuttot.html
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970730
Loading Image...
http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorc.htm#cutchase
http://www.word-detective.com/093098.html#cuttochase

I found these by going to the alt.usage.english FAQ site:
<http://www.alt-usage-english.org> and searching on "+cut +chase"
(without the quotation marks). This seems to be one of the rare
cliches whose origin is easy to pin down.

Bob Lieblich
No charge

[david56]

Post by M.C.

Post by Brian Pipa
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?

Cut to the chase.
Hollywood jargon for "get rid of the talky scenes and get to the
action."

Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

[Dr Robin Bignall]

Post by david56

Post by M.C.

Post by Brian Pipa
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?

Cut to the chase.
Hollywood jargon for "get rid of the talky scenes and get to the
action."

Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

It's when a modern heroine gives up martial arts and retires to a nunnery.
It'll be the sequel to Tarantino's latest movie.

[Professor Redwine]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

It's when a modern heroine gives up martial arts and retires to a nunnery.
It'll be the sequel to Tarantino's latest movie.

Film doesn't reflect reality, otherwise she would give up the nunnery to
embark upon a chaste career as a martial arts instructor.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

"Professor Redwine" typed:

[...]

Post by Professor Redwine
P.S. Am I the only one who *always* types "marital arts" and then
sees the error and corrects it?

I did it once. I can remember. And, I think, Dr Robin's only sharp
eye spotted it.

[Dr Robin Bignall]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:10:15 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[...]

Post by Professor Redwine
P.S. Am I the only one who *always* types "marital arts" and then
sees the error and corrects it?

I did it once. I can remember. And, I think, Dr Robin's only sharp
eye spotted it.

I have two sharp eyes, Ayaz. Both of them spotted it at the same time,
believe it or believe it not...

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:10:15 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[...]

Post by Professor Redwine
P.S. Am I the only one who *always* types "marital arts" and then
sees the error and corrects it?

I did it once. I can remember. And, I think, Dr Robin's only sharp
eye spotted it.

I have two sharp eyes, Ayaz. Both of them spotted it at the same
time, believe it or believe it not...

But, what about the lazy one that is always peeping outside through
the window? Surely, you don't deny having one, do you?

[Dr Robin Bignall]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:05 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:10:15 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[...]

Post by Professor Redwine
P.S. Am I the only one who *always* types "marital arts" and then
sees the error and corrects it?

I did it once. I can remember. And, I think, Dr Robin's only sharp
eye spotted it.

I have two sharp eyes, Ayaz. Both of them spotted it at the same
time, believe it or believe it not...

But, what about the lazy one that is always peeping outside through
the window? Surely, you don't deny having one, do you?

Yep. If I could see through the window while sitting here in my garret, I'd
just see rooftops, but I keep the curtains closed so I can keep the screen
brightness low. I do all of my peeping when I'm out and about, using both
eyes.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:05 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[...]
But, what about the lazy one that is always peeping outside through
the window? Surely, you don't deny having one, do you?

Yep. If I could see through the window while sitting here in my
garret, I'd just see rooftops, but I keep the curtains closed so I
can keep the screen brightness low. I do all of my peeping when I'm
out and about, using both eyes.

Either you lied then, or are lying now. Choose your corner.

[Dr Robin Bignall]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:03:44 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:05 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[...]
But, what about the lazy one that is always peeping outside through
the window? Surely, you don't deny having one, do you?

Yep. If I could see through the window while sitting here in my
garret, I'd just see rooftops, but I keep the curtains closed so I
can keep the screen brightness low. I do all of my peeping when I'm
out and about, using both eyes.

Either you lied then, or are lying now. Choose your corner.

Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

[Michael DeBusk]

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:21:40 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

Oh, no fair, no fair! You're teasing us.

Incidentally, in another post I referred to you as "she", not realizing
you were of the UK. "Robin" is almost strictly feminine here in the US.
If you are not a "she", I sincerely apologize. If you are... well, no,
my money's on you either way. :)

[Peter Duncanson]

Post by Michael DeBusk
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:21:40 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

Oh, no fair, no fair! You're teasing us.
Incidentally, in another post I referred to you as "she", not realizing
you were of the UK. "Robin" is almost strictly feminine here in the US.
If you are not a "she", I sincerely apologize. If you are... well, no,
my money's on you either way. :)

Robin Bignall is male.

In the UK "Robin" is a male name. It is a diminutive of Rob, which in turn
is a diminutive of Robert. I recall some surprise in Britain in the
1960s/70s when the use of Robin as a female name (in Australia) first hit
the public consciousness.

A famous British Robin was Robin Hood.

Robin Bignall's website is at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/docrobin/homepage.htm

There is a photo at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/docrobin/fammain.htm
He is the man with his left hand on his left knee.

[Michael DeBusk]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:29:00 +0100, Peter Duncanson

Post by Peter Duncanson
Robin Bignall is male.

So I have learned. Internet has greatly narrowed (wow, what a mental
image that one created) the Atlantic, and I'm not completely used to
the finer points.

Post by Peter Duncanson
A famous British Robin was Robin Hood.

There'll always be Christopher Robin Milne, as well.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Peter Duncanson
[...]
There is a photo at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/docrobin/fammain.htm He is the man with
his left hand on his left knee.

Funny that he should name the page "fammain".

[Dr Robin Bignall]

On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:13 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Peter Duncanson
[...]
There is a photo at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/docrobin/fammain.htm He is the man with
his left hand on his left knee.

Funny that he should name the page "fammain".

It's the main photo of most of my family, hence 'fammain'. The two who are
missing visited me the following week.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:13 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Peter Duncanson
[...]
There is a photo at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/docrobin/fammain.htm He is the man
with his left hand on his left knee.

Funny that he should name the page "fammain".

It's the main photo of most of my family, hence 'fammain'. The two
who are missing visited me the following week.

It's just that when I read it, it sounded similar to "feminine". It
still does. And then the fact that Peter mentioned this page after
Michael had taken you for a female ... it's purely coincidental.

--
Ayaz Ahmed Khan - Powered by Mandrake Linux 9.0
http://fast-ce.org/

[Dr Robin Bignall]

Post by Michael DeBusk
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:21:40 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

Oh, no fair, no fair! You're teasing us.

A true statement.

Post by Michael DeBusk
Incidentally, in another post I referred to you as "she",

I must have missed such a major upgrade to my status (Hi, Deej!)

Post by Michael DeBusk
not realizing
you were of the UK. "Robin" is almost strictly feminine here in the US.
If you are not a "she", I sincerely apologize. If you are... well, no,
my money's on you either way. :)

I'm a he-man (in my dreams). Or, more realistically, I'm a he, man.
This business of Robin being traditionally a boy's name in Britain, and it
having become a girl's name in the States (and down under?), with sometimes
different spellings such as Robyn or Robynne, has been discussed before in
aue and aeu. I've heard it used as a diminutive for Robert, but I was
christened Robin.

Surely, most women would be too sensible to write the sort of crap that I
come out with. <Insert suitable, British, self-deprecating smiley here>

[Elle]

Post by Michael DeBusk
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:21:40 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

Oh, no fair, no fair! You're teasing us.
Incidentally, in another post I referred to you as "she", not realizing
you were of the UK. "Robin" is almost strictly feminine here in the US.
If you are not a "she", I sincerely apologize. If you are... well, no,
my money's on you either way. :)
--

Just think of "Batman and Robin" and you know Robin's generally a male so he
must be ;)

Elle

[Dr Robin Bignall]

Post by Elle

Post by Michael DeBusk
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:21:40 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

Oh, no fair, no fair! You're teasing us.
Incidentally, in another post I referred to you as "she", not realizing
you were of the UK. "Robin" is almost strictly feminine here in the US.
If you are not a "she", I sincerely apologize. If you are... well, no,
my money's on you either way. :)
--

Just think of "Batman and Robin" and you know Robin's generally a male so he
must be ;)

Heh. SHAZAM! Oops, I'm in the wrong comic strip. Whoosh...

[Django Cat]

On Mon, 03 May 2004 22:16:49 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Elle

Post by Michael DeBusk
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:21:40 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

Oh, no fair, no fair! You're teasing us.
Incidentally, in another post I referred to you as "she", not realizing
you were of the UK. "Robin" is almost strictly feminine here in the US.
If you are not a "she", I sincerely apologize. If you are... well, no,
my money's on you either way. :)
--

Just think of "Batman and Robin" and you know Robin's generally a male so he
must be ;)

Heh. SHAZAM! Oops, I'm in the wrong comic strip. Whoosh...

You think you've got problems.

DC aka Viv

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:03:44 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:05 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[...]
But, what about the lazy one that is always peeping outside
through the window? Surely, you don't deny having one, do you?

Yep. If I could see through the window while sitting here in my
garret, I'd just see rooftops, but I keep the curtains closed so I
can keep the screen brightness low. I do all of my peeping when
I'm out and about, using both eyes.

Either you lied then, or are lying now. Choose your corner.

Right, I've chosen one. Now what?

Lie there, I guess. What else?

[Michael DeBusk]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:03:44 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
Either you lied then, or are lying now. Choose your corner.

Not so. She could have lied *both* times. Alternatively, perhaps one
time was literal and the other metaphorical, which would make *neither*
a lie. Come to think of it, *both* could be metaphorical... or she
could have believed the first was true when it was not, which makes it
not a lie but a mistake. Or maybe, just maybe, you're spoiling for a
fight, which would mean YOU are lying.

I wonder: How will it all turn out?

(I read the "Eats, Shoots, & Leaves" thread!)

[Dr Robin Bignall]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:03:44 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
Either you lied then, or are lying now. Choose your corner.

Not so. She could have lied *both* times. Alternatively, perhaps one
time was literal and the other metaphorical, which would make *neither*
a lie. Come to think of it, *both* could be metaphorical... or she
could have believed the first was true when it was not, which makes it
not a lie but a mistake. Or maybe, just maybe, you're spoiling for a
fight, which would mean YOU are lying.

All of those are probably true, except for the 'she' bit.

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy than me.
That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, t] of an
11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions curled up tight. It'll
take brane power to find me.

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
(I read the "Eats, Shoots, & Leaves" thread!)

I don't need a truss.

[Michael DeBusk]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:58:09 +0100, Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
All of those are probably true, except for the 'she' bit.

I'm sure there are many I overlooked.

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less
lazy than me.

Perhaps, but with age comes a large knowledge base, often filled with
dirty tricks and political affiliations.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:58:09 GMT, Michael DeBusk

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:03:44 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
Either you lied then, or are lying now. Choose your corner.

Not so. She could have lied *both* times. Alternatively, perhaps one
time was literal and the other metaphorical, which would make
*neither* a lie. Come to think of it, *both* could be
metaphorical... or she could have believed the first was true when
it was not, which makes it not a lie but a mistake. Or maybe, just
maybe, you're spoiling for a fight, which would mean YOU are lying.

All of those are probably true, except for the 'she' bit.

Why, it seems we have another thing in common. Sometimes, at
university, when I wish to not be bothered by anyone, and when
there're people pouring in from all dimensions asking whether they
have done this properly or that, I strategically tell them, without
knowing or caring, that they have done it perfectly all-right. They go
away happily, leaving me alone.

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy than
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will* redefine
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

--
Ayaz Ahmed Khan - Powered by Mandrake Linux 9.0
http://fast-ce.org/

[Dr Robin Bignall]

On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:22 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan
<***@myrealbox.com> wrote:

[Whoever wrote it, wrote]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Michael DeBusk
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy than
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will* redefine
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

Walking the planck can be dangerous.

[david56]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:22 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[Whoever wrote it, wrote]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Michael DeBusk
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy than
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will* redefine
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

Walking the planck can be dangerous.

Walking the planck is a constant danger.

[John Dean]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:22 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[Whoever wrote it, wrote]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Michael DeBusk
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy than
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will* redefine
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

Walking the planck can be dangerous.

Many a mickle Max a muckle, as they say in quantum theory.

[Dr Robin Bignall]

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:22 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[Whoever wrote it, wrote]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Michael DeBusk
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy than
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will* redefine
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

Walking the planck can be dangerous.

Many a mickle Max a muckle, as they say in quantum theory.

This thread is beginning to Bohr me.

[M.C.]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:22 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[Whoever wrote it, wrote]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Michael DeBusk
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy than
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will* redefine
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

Walking the planck can be dangerous.

Many a mickle Max a muckle, as they say in quantum theory.

This thread is beginning to Bohr me.

Bohr? He always Fuchs up.

[Django Cat]

Post by M.C.

On Sun, 2 May 2004 11:17:19 +0100, "John Dean"

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:22 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[Whoever wrote it, wrote]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Michael DeBusk
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy

than

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will*

redefine

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

Walking the planck can be dangerous.

Many a mickle Max a muckle, as they say in quantum theory.

This thread is beginning to Bohr me.

Bohr? He always Fuchs up.

"No Madam, these Fockers were Messerschmidts".

[Professor Redwine]

Post by Django Cat

Post by M.C.

On Sun, 2 May 2004 11:17:19 +0100, "John Dean"

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Sat, 01 May 2004 09:31:22 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan
[Whoever wrote it, wrote]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Michael DeBusk
I wonder: How will it all turn out?

Oh, Ayaz would win. He's younger, faster, smarter and less lazy

than

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
me. That's why I'm hiding in the corner [a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i,
j, t] of an 11-dimensional universe, with most of my dimensions
curled up tight. It'll take brane power to find me.

Just to let you know, where ever you are: I *can* and *will*

redefine

Post by John Dean

Post by Dr Robin Bignall

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
"Planck's Scale", if need be.

Walking the planck can be dangerous.

Many a mickle Max a muckle, as they say in quantum theory.

This thread is beginning to Bohr me.

Bohr? He always Fuchs up.

"No Madam, these Fockers were Messerschmidts".

Looked like a load of old junkers to me. They weren't even straight - all
boeing in the middle.

[Odysseus]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
Why, it seems we have another thing in common. Sometimes, at
university, when I wish to not be bothered by anyone, and when
there're people pouring in from all dimensions asking whether they
have done this properly or that, I strategically tell them, without
knowing or caring, that they have done it perfectly all-right. They go
away happily, leaving me alone.

My usual strategy in such circumstances was to light up a Gauloise. I
didn't care if they went away happy, as long as they went away -- but
to the extent that my chemical warfare was effective I suppose it
made them happy to be elsewhere.

[Peter Duncanson]

Post by david56

Post by M.C.

Post by Brian Pipa
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?

Cut to the chase.
Hollywood jargon for "get rid of the talky scenes and get to the
action."

Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

If the cutting is to remove a chastity belt it might be intended as a
prelude to an exciting activity. Whether the wearer of the belt's
significant other would consider it to be a worthy activity is another
matter altogether.

[david56]

Post by Peter Duncanson

Post by david56

Post by M.C.

Post by Brian Pipa
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?

Cut to the chase.
Hollywood jargon for "get rid of the talky scenes and get to the
action."

Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

If the cutting is to remove a chastity belt it might be intended as a
prelude to an exciting activity. Whether the wearer of the belt's
significant other would consider it to be a worthy activity is another
matter altogether.

Surely that would be cutting of the chaste, or for the chaste, rather
than to the chaste.

[Dr Robin Bignall]

[I hope my snipping was not too near the bone]

Post by david56

Post by Peter Duncanson

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

If the cutting is to remove a chastity belt it might be intended as a
prelude to an exciting activity. Whether the wearer of the belt's
significant other would consider it to be a worthy activity is another
matter altogether.

Surely that would be cutting of the chaste,

No, no. The objective is to remove the belt without cutting its wearer.

Post by david56
or for the chaste,

Depends on whether she fancies you. She might be against the whole idea.

Post by david56
rather
than to the chaste.

Well, you've got to the chaste once the damned thing is off.

In days of old when knights were bold
Chastity belts they did invent
To guard their missuses from love and kisseses
And other, more evil intent.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting
activity.

Does that mean losing one's chastity, or, less likely, regaining it,
if it is anything that can be lost or regained?

[david56]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting
activity.

Does that mean losing one's chastity, or, less likely, regaining it,
if it is anything that can be lost or regained?

It's not a real idiomatic phrase, just a mistake for "cutting to the
chase".

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by david56

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting
activity.

Does that mean losing one's chastity, or, less likely, regaining
it, if it is anything that can be lost or regained?

It's not a real idiomatic phrase, just a mistake for "cutting to the
chase".

Tongue-in-cheek, David. Tongue-in-cheek.

[david56]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

Does that mean losing one's chastity, or, less likely, regaining
it, if it is anything that can be lost or regained?

It's not a real idiomatic phrase, just a mistake for "cutting to the
chase".

Tongue-in-cheek, David. Tongue-in-cheek.

Sorry; I hesitated for a moment, but it's not always easy to tell.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by david56

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting activity.

Does that mean losing one's chastity, or, less likely, regaining
it, if it is anything that can be lost or regained?

It's not a real idiomatic phrase, just a mistake for "cutting to
the chase".

Tongue-in-cheek, David. Tongue-in-cheek.

Sorry; I hesitated for a moment, but it's not always easy to tell.

No prob!

[Robert Lieblich]

Ayaz Ahmed Khan wrote:

[ ... ]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
--
Ayaz Ahmed Khan - Powered by Mandrake Linux 9.0

Are you a 'bot?

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Robert Lieblich
[ ... ]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
--
Ayaz Ahmed Khan - Powered by Mandrake Linux 9.0

Are you a 'bot?

I can't with certainty say a bot I'm that.

[Professor Redwine]

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting
activity.

Does that mean losing one's chastity, or, less likely, regaining it,
if it is anything that can be lost or regained?

O joy of joys! At long last (ever seen a short last, except in a cobblers'
workshop?) is bequeathed me the opportunity to refer to a placard held by
a demonstrator at an anti-Dubya rally in Berlin in 2002:

"Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity!"

In a discussion with Rewboss (scooby rew, where are you? It is time to
return...) a couple of hours after I saw the aforesaid, the conclusion was
reached that there is indeed a difference to be noted: peace, it seems,
can be regained. I feel, however, that the whole subject warrants further
research, and declare myself willing and able.

[Peter Duncanson]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:14:23 +0200, Professor Redwine

Post by Professor Redwine
O joy of joys! At long last (ever seen a short last, except in a cobblers'
workshop?) is bequeathed me the opportunity to refer to a placard held by
"Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity!"
In a discussion with Rewboss (scooby rew, where are you? It is time to
return...) a couple of hours after I saw the aforesaid, the conclusion was
reached that there is indeed a difference to be noted: peace, it seems,
can be regained. I feel, however, that the whole subject warrants further
research, and declare myself willing and able.

It's not quite the same as regaining virginity of course, however fucking
without contraception can result in the production of a new virgin human.

[Dr Robin Bignall]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:29:40 +0100, Peter Duncanson

Post by Peter Duncanson
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:14:23 +0200, Professor Redwine

Post by Professor Redwine
O joy of joys! At long last (ever seen a short last, except in a cobblers'
workshop?) is bequeathed me the opportunity to refer to a placard held by
"Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity!"
In a discussion with Rewboss (scooby rew, where are you? It is time to
return...) a couple of hours after I saw the aforesaid, the conclusion was
reached that there is indeed a difference to be noted: peace, it seems,
can be regained. I feel, however, that the whole subject warrants further
research, and declare myself willing and able.

It's not quite the same as regaining virginity of course, however fucking
without contraception can result in the production of a new virgin human.

Er, so can fucking *with* contraception, as some of us have discovered the
hard way, long ago. But that's another story...

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Dr Robin Bignall
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:29:40 +0100, Peter Duncanson

Post by Peter Duncanson
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:14:23 +0200, Professor Redwine

Post by Professor Redwine
O joy of joys! At long last (ever seen a short last, except in a
cobblers' workshop?) is bequeathed me the opportunity to refer to a
placard held by a demonstrator at an anti-Dubya rally in Berlin in
"Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity!"
In a discussion with Rewboss (scooby rew, where are you? It is time
to return...) a couple of hours after I saw the aforesaid, the
conclusion was reached that there is indeed a difference to be
noted: peace, it seems, can be regained. I feel, however, that the
whole subject warrants further research, and declare myself willing
and able.

It's not quite the same as regaining virginity of course, however
fucking without contraception can result in the production of a new
virgin human.

Er, so can fucking *with* contraception, as some of us have
discovered the hard way, long ago. But that's another story...

Back in high-school we used to tease friends who were dunces by
shamelessly attributing to their only cause of existence the
application of cheap, third-class condoms. We still do that at the
university. And I think that might imply an increase in the number of
dunces being given birth to every year.

Pretty sick. Isn't it?

[Michael DeBusk]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:08 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
Back in high-school we used to tease friends who were dunces by
shamelessly attributing to their only cause of existence the
application of cheap, third-class condoms.

Any sperm cell that can fight its way through a condom, even a cheap
one, deserves to win the egg!

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:25:02 GMT, the renowned Michael DeBusk

Post by Michael DeBusk
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:08 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
Back in high-school we used to tease friends who were dunces by
shamelessly attributing to their only cause of existence the
application of cheap, third-class condoms.

Any sperm cell that can fight its way through a condom, even a cheap
one, deserves to win the egg!

Sure, but does your enthusiam extend to 20 or 22 years of child
support. Or is an oeuf enough?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

[Michael DeBusk]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:13:12 GMT, Spehro Pefhany

Post by Spehro Pefhany
Sure, but does your enthusiam extend to 20 or 22 years of child
support. Or is an oeuf enough?

A vasectomy means never having to say you're sorry.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Michael DeBusk
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:05:08 +0600, Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan
Back in high-school we used to tease friends who were dunces by
shamelessly attributing to their only cause of existence the
application of cheap, third-class condoms.

Any sperm cell that can fight its way through a condom, even a cheap
one, deserves to win the egg!

You, it seems, missed the humour, if there was any to be missed. Or, I
did.

[Ayaz Ahmed Khan]

Post by Professor Redwine

Post by Ayaz Ahmed Khan

Post by david56
Cutting to the chaste sounds a rather worthy and unexciting
activity.

Does that mean losing one's chastity, or, less likely, regaining
it, if it is anything that can be lost or regained?

O joy of joys! At long last (ever seen a short last, except in a
cobblers' workshop?) is bequeathed me the opportunity to refer to a
placard held by a demonstrator at an anti-Dubya rally in Berlin in
"Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity!"
In a discussion with Rewboss (scooby rew, where are you? It is time
to return...) a couple of hours after I saw the aforesaid, the
conclusion was reached that there is indeed a difference to be
noted: peace, it seems, can be regained. I feel, however, that the
whole subject warrants further research, and declare myself willing
and able.

Which subject, Professor: that of losing and regaining peace; or,
that of losing and regaining chastity?

You, too, coincidentally, have given me the opportunity to describe a
sensual sign board I saw last weekend. On my way back from the
Opticians, driving with my parents, I saw what appeared to me to be a
small sign board glowing in thick red, with text in yellow. It seemed
to say, to my astonishment:

"Spicy Breast"

But when I had passed it, having had a more careful look at it this
time about, I had only this to say:

"Oh, damn that 'o'."

[Brian Pipa]

Thanks to all who replied and thanks for the links. Not sure why Google
didn't give me any of those.

brian

[raymond o'hara]

Post by Brian Pipa
Thanks to all who replied and thanks for the links. Not sure why Google
didn't give me any of those.
brian

cut to the chase . .

a movie term . when the action drags you " cut to the chase " the chase
scene be it indians chasing a stage coach or goodies chasing baddies . a
standard cliche' .

it's used to get someone giving you a rambling explanation to get to the
point.

[Joanne Marinelli]

Post by Brian Pipa
Hi all,
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?
Thanks,
brian

Brian,

I am not a minutiae expert on the grammatical lexicon like some here at AEU,
but despite Bob's links, I have always used chaste as an adjective, not a
noun, so to me *cut to the chaste* may be an interesting post-modern
subversion of meaning, but otherwise makes no sense.

Joanne
(where do you people get this stuff?)

[M.C.]

Post by Joanne Marinelli
I am not a minutiae expert on the grammatical lexicon like some here at AEU,
but despite Bob's links, I have always used chaste as an adjective, not a
noun, so to me *cut to the chaste* may be an interesting post-modern
subversion of meaning, but otherwise makes no sense.

But "the chaste" can be a noun, no? The libidinous shall inherit the
bed; the chaste shall inherit ... (fill in the blank).

[Joanne Marinelli]

Post by M.C.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
I am not a minutiae expert on the grammatical lexicon like some here at AEU,
but despite Bob's links, I have always used chaste as an adjective, not a
noun, so to me *cut to the chaste* may be an interesting post-modern
subversion of meaning, but otherwise makes no sense.

But "the chaste" can be a noun, no? The libidinous shall inherit the
bed; the chaste shall inherit ... (fill in the blank).
"chaste" sounds perfectly OK to me as both adjective and noun. Just
like the quick and the dead.
Second hit on "the chaste" reads: "State-funded sex abstinence
classes for adults face financial turn-off"
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-05-03/news.html
--
David

I do not know how badly I want to win this argument, but chaste, like *pure*
is an attributive adjective even when used as a noun. To take MC's phrase,
"the chaste (men/women/people) shall inherit the (blank)..."

Joanne the saucy

[david56]

Post by Joanne Marinelli

Post by M.C.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
I am not a minutiae expert on the grammatical lexicon like some here at

AEU,

Post by M.C.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
but despite Bob's links, I have always used chaste as an adjective, not

a

Post by M.C.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
noun, so to me *cut to the chaste* may be an interesting post-modern
subversion of meaning, but otherwise makes no sense.

But "the chaste" can be a noun, no? The libidinous shall inherit the
bed; the chaste shall inherit ... (fill in the blank).
"chaste" sounds perfectly OK to me as both adjective and noun. Just
like the quick and the dead.
Second hit on "the chaste" reads: "State-funded sex abstinence
classes for adults face financial turn-off"
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-05-03/news.html

I do not know how badly I want to win this argument, but chaste, like *pure*
is an attributive adjective even when used as a noun. To take MC's phrase,
"the chaste (men/women/people) shall inherit the (blank)..."

Now you're trying to blind me with grammar. I don't know what an
attributive adjective may be, but "I am leaving my money to the
chaste" and "The chaste shall inherit the Earth" give me a nouny sort
of feeling.

[Peter Duncanson]

Post by david56

Post by Joanne Marinelli
I do not know how badly I want to win this argument, but chaste, like *pure*
is an attributive adjective even when used as a noun. To take MC's phrase,
"the chaste (men/women/people) shall inherit the (blank)..."

Now you're trying to blind me with grammar. I don't know what an
attributive adjective may be, but "I am leaving my money to the
chaste" and "The chaste shall inherit the Earth" give me a nouny sort
of feeling.

I suspect we might be entering territory where angels fear to tread.

Is a word to be classified as a noun when it is used as a noun - or not?
<darfc>

[meirman]

In alt.english.usage on Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:34:24 GMT "Joanne

Post by Joanne Marinelli

Post by M.C.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
I am not a minutiae expert on the grammatical lexicon like some here at

AEU,

Post by M.C.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
but despite Bob's links, I have always used chaste as an adjective, not

a

Post by M.C.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
noun, so to me *cut to the chaste* may be an interesting post-modern
subversion of meaning, but otherwise makes no sense.

But "the chaste" can be a noun, no? The libidinous shall inherit the
bed; the chaste shall inherit ... (fill in the blank).
"chaste" sounds perfectly OK to me as both adjective and noun. Just
like the quick and the dead.
Second hit on "the chaste" reads: "State-funded sex abstinence
classes for adults face financial turn-off"
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-05-03/news.html
--
David

I do not know how badly I want to win this argument, but chaste, like *pure*
is an attributive adjective even when used as a noun. To take MC's phrase,
"the chaste (men/women/people) shall inherit the (blank)..."

You didn't but there are people here that are constantly claiming
words are omitted. Words can be added to make the meaning clear, but
chaste makes a fine noun. I suppose one can't have a chaste rock or a
chaste ocean. We rely on what we know already to know it refers to a
person (or an animal) but I don't think that means a word has been
omitted.

Post by Joanne Marinelli
Joanne the saucy

s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.

Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis, 7 years
Chicago, 6 years
Brooklyn NY 12 years
Baltimore 20 years

[david56]

Post by Joanne Marinelli

Post by Brian Pipa
Hi all,
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?
Thanks,
brian

Brian,
I am not a minutiae expert on the grammatical lexicon like some here at AEU,
but despite Bob's links, I have always used chaste as an adjective, not a
noun, so to me *cut to the chaste* may be an interesting post-modern
subversion of meaning, but otherwise makes no sense.

"chaste" sounds perfectly OK to me as both adjective and noun. Just
like the quick and the dead.

Second hit on "the chaste" reads: "State-funded sex abstinence
classes for adults face financial turn-off"
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2001-05-03/news.html

[meirman]

In alt.english.usage on Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:25:41 GMT "Joanne

Post by Joanne Marinelli

Post by Brian Pipa
Hi all,
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).
Anyone have a definitive answer?
Thanks,
brian

Brian,
I am not a minutiae expert on the grammatical lexicon like some here at AEU,
but despite Bob's links, I have always used chaste as an adjective, not a

Just about any adjective can be a noun. They call them substantives.
(I say just about because there are probably exceptions, even though I
don't know any.)

Post by Joanne Marinelli
noun, so to me *cut to the chaste* may be an interesting post-modern
subversion of meaning, but otherwise makes no sense.
Joanne
(where do you people get this stuff?)

s/ meirman If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.

Born west of Pittsburgh Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis, 7 years
Chicago, 6 years
Brooklyn NY 12 years
Baltimore 20 years

[Joanne Marinelli]

Post by meirman
Just about any adjective can be a noun. They call them substantives.
(I say just about because there are probably exceptions, even though I
don't know any.)

But the noun for a adjective like chaste is nearly always implied. If we
take a phrase like
*a chaste*
*a pure*
*a thin*

the phrase means nothing because chaste pure and thin refer to states
described. Add woman, and there you have you object

*a chaste woman*

hence

*the chaste*

is just implied shorthand for chaste something.

Joanne

[Robert Lieblich]

Post by Joanne Marinelli

Post by meirman
Just about any adjective can be a noun. They call them substantives.
(I say just about because there are probably exceptions, even though I
don't know any.)

But the noun for a adjective like chaste is nearly always implied. If we
take a phrase like
*a chaste*
*a pure*
*a thin*
the phrase means nothing because chaste pure and thin refer to states
described. Add woman, and there you have you object
*a chaste woman*
hence
*the chaste*
is just implied shorthand for chaste something.

Of course. Unless it isn't. But there are a couple of points that
need making:

1. Context can create substantives almost out of thin air.
Consider this dialogue: "I have both hot and cold turkey sandwiches.
Which would you prefer?" "Two hot, please." Or this: "We have both
smoking and non-smoking hotel rooms." "I'll take a non."

2. This side of metaphysics, I'm not sure it matters whether
"chaste" in "the chaste" is an adjective, a noun, or (implausibly)
something else entirely. The linguists can fight over issues of
identity. When you trip over something like "Only the lonely can
know my sorrow," you know what the subject of the sentence is, and
even if it looks like an adjective it acts like a noun.

Okay, you can say that the noun is implied, in the same way you can
argue that there's an implied subject in each imperative sentence:
"[You] stop arguing about that." But you really haven't advanced
the argument. Native speakers form sentences like "The chaste shall
be rewarded in heaven" without concern for what the grammatical
structure is. Grammarians and linguists attach labels. I'm content
to regard "chaste" as a noun when used without following noun, if
only out of deference to Occam's Razor. But I see no need to come
to blows with those who think it's an adjective followed by an
implied noun -- wrong though they may be.[1]

Change of thread -- Cheer up, Joanne. Life won't suck forever.
This are already improving for me. I've learned how to spell
"Marinelli."

[1] Wisecrack with implied smiley.

[Alan OBrien]

Post by Brian Pipa
Hi all,
I'm hoping someone here can answer this for me. Which is correct?
"Cut to the chaste"
OR
"Cut to the chase"
I did some googling and found both used but could not find a definitive
answer as to which is correct. I had always assumed it was chaste, but
after seeing so many instances of "cut to the chase", it makes me wonder.
" Pure or simple in design or style; austere."
which would fit with the phrase. I could find no definition of chase
which would make sense (to me anyway).

"Cut to the paste".
Alan